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I already have a pair of SBz, which while are heavy are the step up from the SRXs that I will use for smaller productions total capcacity, db at 50'. The weight doesn't bother me i am 35, and I always have help. Thanks Soundforums. Rob Timmerman Graduate. Jan 13, 1, 17 38 My own little world rtimmerm. Anything that has greybox presets for the UX can still be considered a modern box, and the older gear sounds quite good with standard DSP or in some cases, even without.
If I were in your position, I'd be looking at the s, as the is more than you need, and the isn't enough for those rooms think of it as a nice speaker on a stick. Ivan Beaver Graduate Student. Jan 11, 2, 10 0 Atlanta GA area. In many cases a pair of SH50's 1 per side is not going to provide a wide enough coverage for many venues. For others it is fine. If you are looking at Danley-then I suggest the SM Wider coverage-lighter-pole mountable-less expensive and just as loud or louder.
You will need subs with the SM80 in many cases but not all -and you already have some-so you are in a good position there. Except you will need more subs if you want to keep up with the SM Dick Rees Curmudgeonly Scandihoovian. Jan 11, 1, 0 0 St Paul, MN. I can't believe I never noticed that on the Danley site. Yes, I am always trying to find "just right porridge" speaker from gyms. This looks like a good bet.
Being stand mountable is just an added bonus, since getting 2 KFs per side in a gym above the heads of the church folk they want the speakers no lower than 8. Thanks for the info and advice!
Eric Cagle Senior. Jan 20, 1 0 Atlanta, GA. I started writing then did a little research on the SM I will go ahead and post what I have. In my opinion you can't go wrong with this box for what you are doing. The z's are stellar, a completely different animal than the e series.
Just be sure to get them up high enough because the high frequency driver is in the middle. Also amp power and processing are critical to get the most out of them. Get the UX and tri-amp them if you really want the very best sound quality and output.
If you are looking at anything Danley for top boxes, a properly powered and processed KFz rig is one of the very few semi affordable professional set ups that will even get you close to that high end studio monitor sound and accuracy. The KF, although much louder, is a very heavy box. It is in excess of lbs.
I did not like lifting them when I was 35 and I like lifting lb trap boxes even less now at 50 even though I still do it on our bigger shows. Now as for the SM I was unaware of this box. After researching a little bit I am going to have to take a ride over to Danley and give a listen to them.
I am a big fan of the KFz but if you do the math 3 amps and a ux, even used, puts the price in range of the SM80 and a single amp. Just for comparison my Mackie Fussion tops are supposedly db peak with a 80x70 degree pattern and they will walk all over a single KFz. They are LOUD and fairly accurate. There is just that lb thing that makes me always wish for other options.
The crossover point is 85hz for the Fussions rather than HZ for the SM80 but I have a truck load of subs that will be happy to go up to hz and crossover. I am actually in the market myself for a smaller trap rig to add to my arsonal sometime around February and I had pretty much decided to either go with the KFz's or a 3 way powered option. I don't expect a smaller cabinet to be as loud as the Fussion but it is a reference for me as far as clarity and volume.
It might be an apples and oranges comparison but would like do a shootout with the z's, Fussion 's, and the SM80's in the next few weeks Ivan if you have the time. I called Kemper and he is in to bring his z rig. Last edited: Dec 26, Waiting to hear how this turns out if it happens!!
The best way would be to do a side by side demo-and we welcome side by sides. It is the best way to truly get an idea of how different cabinets compare to each other. I will not be back in the office until Jan 7th I have a Synaudcon class in Dallas the first week.
Give me a call-and bring whatever you want to compare. Drag Kemper if you can. That sounds good. I am available most any week day after the 7th with some notice.
I will also bring you that amp and stack of 's and 80's audio brochures I have been saving for your museum. Kemper Watson Senior. Jan 11, 0 16 Atlanta, Georgia, United States www. Spenser Hamilton Senior. Sep 12, 4 18 SW Ontario. I've been tossing around the idea of some KF vs a small line array box , db t4, etc. Can't I just ride in the car? Charles Harrigan Sophomore. Jan 11, 0 16 Upstate SC. If this shoot our happens, I could bring a pair of vpdp to compare with.
I'm still interested in hearing the sm80 under more favorable circumstances. Sent from my neural implant. Ben Gingerich Sophomore. Oct 19, 0 16 Warner Robins Ga. I don't have anything fun to bring, but i would like to come up when the shootout happens. How many people and rigs can you accomommodate Ivan? Scott Helmke Junior. Jan 11, 0 0 Chicago, IL www. But "80 degree box" and "gymnatorium" put together might result in a nasty reverberant mess, unless you're in places with some acoustic treatment.
Something with a tighter vertical pattern would probably be a better fit for the application. I hate to throw a damper on things, because I do love the Danley stuff. You must log in or register to reply here. Top Bottom. Sign-up or log in to join the discussion today!
Thoughts on old EAW KF gear
ProSoundWeb Community. Please login or register. I was told the speakers were "junk". I havent had the opportunity to hook them up but I did visually inspect the speakers and none are blown. Maybe something wrong with the x-over, but in all 3?!? Any suggestions on were I could go?
EAW – SB600 – KF600 Set
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